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Wednesday, June 14, 2006

Carole James - Reaching Out To the Masses

The Carole James unbelievable bus has just left the station.

Remember her?

It’s been over a year since last spring’s election catapulted her into short-lived prominence.

Today, most British Columbians could be forgiven for not being able to pick her out of a police lineup.

Issue after issue has passed into the public sphere without the official opposition weighing in. Perhaps they have commented in press releases, but they have yet to seize an issue and make it their own.

The media clearly think that the NDP have little to add to the public discourse.

Teacher’s bargaining? Nothing from Carole James.

Transportation? Nothing from Carole James.

Child care? Nothing from Carole James.

Joy McPhail and Jenny Kwan, on their own, were a far more effective opposition than the current crew of 33.

The kicker, of course, is that while Carole James hasn’t reacted in a meaningful way to any of the critical issues facing the province, last week she ventured into an NDP heart of darkness: the mining industry.

Her mission? To reassure miners in BC that an NDP government would be a friend.

I wonder what her increasingly restless caucus thinks about that move?

Given that during the 1990s mining investment declined in BC from $227 million to $32 million, it seems very strange that this would be the issue on which she attempts to gain some public profile.

Last week, she spoke at a breakfast held by the Association of Mining Exploration in BC.

Most of the attendees appeared to be there for the entertainment value of seeing an New Democrat politician squirm. And she did, especially when many in the audience reflexively groaned when it was suggested that BC mining had nothing to fear from a return of the regulation-drunk New Democrats.

David Caulfield is the past-president of Association and president of locally-based Rimfire Minerals Corporation. He declares there is risk to the industry if the NDP gets back in because the previous NDP tenures weren’t good times for the mining business.

“The overtures from Carole are really good, but the proof will come only if they form government. There are some pretty radical fringe members in her group. The BC Liberals have worked their butts off for this industry and good government policy is a big part of the recent growth.”

Carole James remains silent or unheard on important decisions facing our province – issues on which the opposition should be ensuring a full debate.

Instead she takes her formidable intellect and uses it to make nice with the industry least likely to want a return to discredited NDP policy.

It’s either political brilliance or ineptitude on a massive scale.

(As seen today in 24 Hours)


At 12:59 p.m., Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why Do We Need More Female Politicians?

In the UK all major political parties are quick to emphasise
that they want more females in their ranks as MPs. Why is this? Obviously, they know that this will attract female voters because females always vote with gender politics in mind, whereas men do not. It is therefore, a lucrative hunting ground when electioneering. This tendency for women to only consider the importance of any issue purely on the basis of whether or not it benefits them is exactly the reason why we do not need more females in political office.
More: June 2, 2006 article
from "Captain Zarmband"


At 2:42 p.m., Blogger Erin Airton said...

"Obviously, they know that this will attract female voters because females always vote with gender politics in mind, whereas men do not. It is therefore, a lucrative hunting ground when electioneering. This tendency for women to only consider the importance of any issue purely on the basis of whether or not it benefits them is exactly the reason why we do not need more females in political office."

Bernie, when you type crap like that, you have to know that you've crossed the stupid line.

Come on. We all know you hate women for some reason. But for a guy who hates women, you sure spend a LOT of time on a website run by a... woman - a divorced, full-time working mother.

I disagree with Carole James on her approach, but I will defend her right to run for and hold elected office.

Democracy is a great thing. Unless you are too bitter to hack it.

At 3:07 p.m., Anonymous Anonymous said...

Erin said,

Democracy is a great thing. Unless you are too bitter to hack it.

[D]emocracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.2 James Madison

Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.3 John Adams

A democracy is a volcano which conceals the fiery materials of its own destruction. These will produce an eruption and carry desolation in their way.4 The known propensity of a democracy is to licentiousness [excessive license] which the ambitious call, and ignorant believe to be liberty.5 Fisher Ames, Author of the House Language for the First Amendment
Read the rest of the essay here:


At 4:42 p.m., Anonymous Joseph Lavoie said...

Bernie, Bernie ,Bernie!

What's your deal? Are you not able to comment without using someone else's words? I trust you have a capable mind, and it bothers me that you don't use it. What purpose do you get from using random quotes from philosophers?

And how do you link gender politics to the destruction of democracy? This stems back to a previous comment I wrote on here in regards to your illogical statements: you need logic to develop a sound response.

And you've done it again: you've assumed that women vote with gender politics. How did you come up with this brutally generalized conclusion? I'm just curious...

At 4:44 p.m., Anonymous Anonymous said...

Erin said,
But for a guy who hates women, you sure spend a LOT of time on a website run by a... woman
Yes, but if I didn't like your
writing efforts I wouldn't tease you so much, I wouldn't even come here. If I can post some interesting stuff, stir the pot and
make waves a bit, more people
will be drawn here.


At 5:27 p.m., Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joseph said:
And you've done it again: you've assumed that women vote with gender politics. How did you come up with this brutally generalized conclusion? I'm just curious...
Women are physically different
than men. AND did you know
that woman think differently than men? It is God ordained.
Woman are more selfish, hedonistic,
subjective instead of objective or LOGICAL in their thinking.
You can see their rampant consumerism and selfishness
in the pathology
of the number of shoes they want to own, for example.
They always brag about "independence" but want
a man to open up his wallet or
failing that "The State"
to provide everything,
with zero concern of where the money
is coming from. They are very happy
to vote benefits for themselves
with no concern for who pays
( men ). Women are the weaker vessel, they are just like
whining, undisciplined children.
A woman needs to be under the authority of a man.

Have you read my friend Frater's article? Here it is, I hope it's not too long Erin, you don't want long posts I think.

How Did the Female End Up Worshipping Herself?
Written by Frater Nothing

"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." (Gen. 3:16)

This should really be translated as, "and thy lust for domination shall be directed toward thy husband, but still shall he have mastery over thee."

When the knowledge of good and evil came into the world it destroyed natural law by dividing will against itself. The man is the hierarchical authority over woman.

God first
Christ second
Man third
Woman forth

If a woman is bent on evil, she will not live in natural order. She will always be bent on dominating men, because she senses truly that man is her hierarchical master.

In short, if men are to have any hope, then they must 'strap on a pair' and be a Man!

If women are still bent on rebellion, then they will be crushed under the foot of Men. We will not stand for their witchcrafts and manipulations borne out of their ravening weakness and unbridled lust for domination.

If a woman will not live as a woman, then she will be obliterated by equalibrium. We are men. The rule is ours. And we WILL NOT give it to another!
( or to Carole James ).


At 5:42 p.m., Anonymous Anonymous said...

Methinks Bernie may be dismayed when Campbell turns over the reigns of power to Premier-in-waiting Carole Taylor!

At 6:49 p.m., Anonymous Anonymous said...

It sounds like Carole James is a loser who shouldn't be in office. Where does she stand on important issues? We don't know. We don't even know where her party stands on mining. Seems pretty obvious that Bernie has some validity in his disregard of James as a representative of the people.

At 10:58 p.m., Blogger YVRpilot said...

I'd say ineptitude!


At 3:27 a.m., Anonymous Larry said...

I'm not a fan of Carol James either./ Regarding the setting of God. It's not God than next Jesus Christ next Man and next woman. It's Christ is equal to God also man and woman are both below God yet equal to each other plus intended for each other but still some what different.In fact Christ welcomed and treated women respectfully, especially for those days. St.Peter the great Christian leader informed husbands are to love and honour their wives. Scripture or the Bible also informs children are to honour their moms and dads too. Remember the Bible is not a book but rather a library of 66 authorative Books and Letters-NKJ.Plus ancient religous Biblical texts are often concern with meaning rather than excact details. Some is literal,some symbolic,some given excamples, some to a sellect group, lots to all.Meanings too-Eye of a Needle in Biblical times is a hole in a city wall for a camel to get through not a needle hole for thread. Adultery upon Christ saying looking at a women with lust you than commited adultery already.-This actually seems to mean looking at a "married woman" and wanting her her much sexually and for ones own wife. Christ also removed lots of the tough OldTestament regulations. Sorry got of the jubject here too much, nevertheless some might fine this interesting and informative./ Lots of people don't even know who Carol James is now.

At 12:54 p.m., Blogger Erin Airton said...

"Women are the weaker vessel, they are just like whining, undisciplined children. A woman needs to be under the authority of a man."

Bernie - I know I'm never going to get you off your anti-woman hobby horse, but I'm very curious what you mean by this.

Are you saying that I should be under the dominion of a man? That I can't be trusted to think for myself? That I'm like a child and need a firm hand?

Following your argument, women shouldn't even be allowed to raise children - as they are but children themselves.

Clearly a woman has hurt you a great deal in the past, but leadership of "man" isn't automatic. It is earned through his kindness and strength.

I respect and honour the men in my life, as I hope they respect and honour me.

Men and women are different. Not better or worse. Different. These differences are worth celebrating, not shaming.

If you actually believe that women are but children and require protection from their "selfishness", then you have my sympathy.

It speaks more to your own lack of manhood than anything else. A true man - strong, confident, loving, wise - wouldn't denigrate God's appointed help-mate in this manner.

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At 1:07 p.m., Anonymous Anonymous said...


I'm not anti-woman, I just
believe that men have their
proper roles and woman have their
different but still important roles.

"Husbands are Biblically to Rule over their Wives; Wives are to obey!"

"God has ordained that the man is to be the head of the household. The wife is to SUBMIT to her own husband..."

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord."-Ephesians 5:22"

In a large family oriented community would you like
to see the women welding
on the 30th floor of a highrise
under construction? And the husband
at home looking after the children
and being the homemaker?
By the way, why aren't
woman clamouring for
50% of the construction jobs up at
the intersection of
Thurlow and Georgia Street.
Stop and look, there's no women.
They just want the easy pink-collar jobs but expect to
be paid the same.

Also I don't hate woman, it is women who hate men.
This starts at an early age.
Go into any Supermarket
and inevitably
when you hear crying
you will see
a mother HITTING her young boy

I also I don't hate women, I hate
State Feminism which
encourages women to leave
marriages by providing
women with all kinds of
benefits ( money ). This comes
at the expense of men.

What if the situation were reversed,
that in the event of divorce
The State would provide
attractive women to men for sex,
and this at the expense of women.
I don't think women would be too pleased.

Carole James has three strikes
against her. She's a socialist,
a State Feminist (State child care),and looks
very masculine for a woman
if it weren't for her hairstyle.
Do we want a State Leader that looks part Olympic Barbell Lifter
and part Sumo Wrestler?


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At 9:49 p.m., Anonymous Anonymous said...

Erin, you are correct. James has been Carole Who from the outset. The NDP have no leadership and no direction.

At 11:37 p.m., Blogger opinionater777 said...

As a female, I believe women deserve a chance to lead our country/province or a major company. There are many examples of highly successful females (case in point Joy McPhail). Love her or hate her, you have to admit that she did an admirable job keeping the BC Liberals in check. That said, I would never vote for her party. I believe James is hiding because the BCTF is making an ass of itself and she doesn't want to get involved in any controversy

At 8:34 a.m., Anonymous Anonymous said...

opinionater777 said...
As a female, I believe women deserve a chance to lead our country/province or a major company.
Have you seen this essay about woman in the workplace?
It would be better if a man
and not Carole James led
the NDP. ( actually it
would be better if nobody lead
the party and they just
folded tent and left the


At 6:54 p.m., Anonymous Joseph Lavoie said...

Mon Dieu Bernie,

I don't think anyone here can take your statements seriously.

The moment you throw in rubbish like 'it's God ordained' it becomes impossible to hold a sound discussion with you.

It's amazing how you quote one section of the Bible and completely refuse the teachings of Christ. How convenient isn't it? The problem here is that you keep following the same pattern of making outrageous comments but without preceding any of them with qualifying arguments. (A leads to B leads to C). If it is God ordained that women are hedonistic people, then God will have provided you with all the proof in the world. So, let's see it Bernie, let's see the ABC to your conclusion.

At 8:27 p.m., Blogger YVRpilot said...

The way you twist the meaning of the Holy Bible is almost blasphemous! The book of Ephesians 5:22 refers to women 'submitting' to their husbands like they do to The Lord.

Did you forget to read the verse prior where it says that a man and woman should 'submit' to one another in the fear of God?

So Bernie, what do you make of 1 Timothy 2:11-12 and 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 ?

I have my doubts that you have studied the bible.

I am sure of one thing though; I forgive you.

At 8:46 p.m., Anonymous Anonymous said...

We don't need the
Female,Socialist, State-Feminist
Carole James to be
the Premier of B.C.

She will just give more money
and benefits to
single females, encouraging more
women to leave their husbands.

Have you seen this?
Crime is Carried and Transmitted
by Single Female Mothers:

"Women," wrote Ramsey Clark in l970, in his celebrated book Crime in America, "are not a threat to the public." But he also wrote, in discussing the male juvenile criminals who are a threat to the public, that "three-fourths came from broken homes." That means mostly female-headed homes. That means that while the single mothers of these criminals do not themselves commit crimes and go to prison, the socialization they give their children has an extraordinarily high correlation with the male crime of the next generation. This socialization, in fact, is the "root cause of crime" which Clark wrote his book to explore. He had found the explanation he sought and he didn't know it. It was concealed by the generation-long time-lag between cause and effect and by the sex-switch between generations: like hemophilia, crime is manifested in males but carried and transmitted by females--or rather by single females."
Read the rest of the article here:


At 10:10 p.m., Blogger Walter Schultz said...

Let's get back on topic.....

Carole James addressing the Association of Mining Exploration in BC, surely most have been a cruel joke or an April Fools day prank.

How could anyone involved in the BC Mining Industry, ever believe the NDP?

In the 1990's the whole Mining Industry packed up and moved to other parts of the globe, when the NDP ran the government in BC. The Mining Engineering faculty at UBC basically stopped producing graduates, because there was no future in mining. The result today is we have an extreme shortage in qualified mining professionals, to work in the new mines opening up in BC.

The problems the NDP caused in the Mining industry will take years to correct. I'm sure the industry will never forget.

At 3:52 p.m., Anonymous Sean P., Vancouver-Quadra/Quilchena said...

Sorry Erin and Walter,

...Let's get back off topic again!

Having been born in the lovely Province of Manitoba, and living here in BC since 1986, I'm surprised that Bernie hasn't quoted the long dead (and Conservative Party)Premier of Manitoba, Roblin (Duff's grandfather):

"Nice women do not want the vote."

To which, the great women's movement of the day (1916), gave a resounding finger to him and his attitude....Bernie, your opinions were very much out of date a century ago! It's 2006, not 1896!

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